Saturday, March 13, 2010

socialization chapter

Select any concept or idea from the chapter that relates to you personally and discuss it.

24 comments:

  1. When I was a child, my siblings and I played “cops and robbers” and “war”. While playing these games we really went in to character and became a cop, robber or soldier. This was big in our growing process this is where we learned and appreciated the roles of the character we took on. George Mead stated, “Playing was essential part of human development.” My personal experience supports Mead’s observation. This was the stage where people’s judgments and opinions started to matter. As I look back, each of us was very different cops’ robbers and soldiers because we were building a sense of self. We personalized each character to fit us in some way because even as children we knew would be judged. This was one of my most remember-able ways I acquired culture.

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  2. The concept that stood out to me the most was Charles Horton Cooley's "Looking-Glass theory". It is absolutely intriguing trying to apply those three "principal elements" to myself.

    Considering the First Element: I have come to realize that I tend to carry myself in a certain way. I make a concious effort not to involve myself with poeple and things that will not benefit me positively (especially concerning my future career). My relationships with individuals (excluding my immediate family)up until very recently had been "gesellschaft", forming them only as a means to an end.

    Second Element: So i'm here thinking "people see me as a career-oriented, goal-chasing,people using SNOB!!.."

    Third Element: I feel sad (knowing that that
    is not all there is to me) but at the same time I have this extreme sense of indifference. After all, if one takes a honest look at today's society, they will find that I am not alone... On the contrary, there are quite a number of us!!

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  3. The entire chapter on socialization was interesting. Taking a sociological look at how we become who we are and what things shape who we are is definitely intriguing. I definitely can apply Charles Horton Cooley’s Looking-Glass Self perspective and George Herbert Mead’s added “I and Me” perspective to my life.

    Growing up, my primary group especially my family were intricate pieces to how I carried myself. I learned what actions of mine were acceptable in different settings and what were not. For example, when I was younger I used the looking-glass perspective with different members of my family. I learned that I could act a certain way and either be rewarded or denied based on my actions and the responses I received from them. In the book it recalled that children learn the looking-glass technique because it assists them in the competition for affection from other members of the primary group. That’s exactly what I was doing.

    As I got older, especially in high school, it was important to me that people saw me in an accurate light—I didn’t want to be judged as something I wasn’t trying to convey. I was concerned with who others saw me in certain situations, depending on my location. At the private school I went to, I was nothing like 99% of the school and I was okay with that. I didn’t, however, want them to think I always had an attitude or was too “goonish” for the school—especially when I was angry. After I did get angry or something upset me, I look back and realize that I was basing my next moves off of how others might have seen me if I was on the outside looking at me. That was the “Me” phase that Mead came up with. How I thought about that and my reaction was the “I” phase—it was my personal reaction after the fact.

    Overall, I guess the symbolic interactionist perspectives of Cooley and Mead were most interesting to me. I still enjoyed learning about agents of socialization, what socialization is, and how the things learned in this chapter tied into my life as a whole.

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  4. howard beckers study of marijuana use, coming up i had alot of friends who smoke pot most of them were student who smoke befor a test or some times when they are stressed out, my friends say it helps them stay focused an to keep there mind of from things i always told my friends i would never smoke but i had peer pressure when i took my first puff it was very relaxing but i regret doing it. i let my self down but smokin pot is not a bad thing only if you dont abuse it

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  5. The part of the chapter that relates to me is George Herbert Mead and the "Me" and "I" theory. After reading this I saw how closely this related to my everyday life. In my everyday life I always consider this theory. In every aspect of my life. It talks about that first example on page 155. When it talks about the students making noise. This example definitely relates to me because that's exactly how I would react. I would get annoyed then if the problem keeps at it then I would want to yell or but I would think how would I look yelling in the middle of class.

    For example some students in some of my classes are so disrespectful to the professor. Its like I just make a face but the problem keeps at it. Then sometimes I just want to just yell at them and make them learn their place, but I think that's not my job and they should know how to act in the class room setting. So then I also think how would I look yelling at college age students who should know how to act. So I just let it go.

    As I grow academically and physically I realize that its not my job to tell other people how they should be acting. I need to just focus on my work and how I'm conducting myself in all situations no matter good or bad.

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  6. The textbooks definition of socialization is the process by which people acquire cultural competency and through which society perpetuates the fundamental nature of existing social structures. Basically it is interaction between people. Without interaction a person can not gain social self. This part stood out to me because I am kind of a loner. I like being by myself because I am comfortable that way. I realize that people will never get a chance to know what a great person I am if I do not open up. Reason being that I do not open up is because some people are just untrustworthy. I do not know why I feel that way but most of the conversations that I have with people are full of lies. I just do not understand why a person just can not tell the truth. Anyway, I can not grow as a person if I do not seek interaction. I feel that by going out and meeting people will introduce me to new things.

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  7. Tagging along to what Norman had said...
    When we were kids growing up we invented games to pass time alot because there was so many restrictions in our house hold. So we played Indian games, Cooking games and house, cops and robbers and we also played our favorite "Mommy got a big butt." From seven of us majority of the time it will be the youngest of the seven to play these games.

    When ever we had played cops and robbers there would always be the good cop and the bad cop. Me and my sister would be the cops and my brothers were the robbers. Between the two cops my sister was the one to really inforce the law aka the bully and I was the one that will just let you go with a citation. The way we looked at my sister mattered to her alot; Meadd's theory for the "Me" really played a big part in her life.

    I look at it as this, when we were younger and playing all these games she was always the bully and thats just how we seen her and I was the princess to everyone. If my sister had did something nice then we all will feel realy strange and feel like there was a joke behind it. So when ever my sister did something nice she felt like we seen her as getting weaker so she would then backfire and do something that was totally un-called for.

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  8. The one that really gets me the most is the looking glss theory by Charles Horton Cooley. As humans we are all suppose to love our bodies, the skin that we are in. The social construction of the images the media portrays sometimes will have look and feel other wise. So this is one thing that I am working on eachday. But my body is curvvaceous and in some areas I do not want it to be that way because I do not see beauty in that area. In my house hold language shaped me in some way. I was chubby and I was one of the chubbiest girls so my sisters would always comment on the way I do not look right in this or that. I do not blame them because we all have conformed to the world at one point in time because of the strong influence it has on us. So if some one that knows me says that I am getting fat or Kimmy your getting thick that really scars me because now that esculates to Mead's theory the I and ME. Now I am worrying about what they are thinking is the problem and I am worrying about the next time they see me what they are going to say.

    When I was at work my co- worker had told me I did a good job and I retaliated and said why would I have done a bad job. So to make a long story short he told me that I have a hard time accepting compliments. I realized that I do and it is becasue Im use to hearing thing that will knock me down but in turn build me up because I will make a change in those areas. So when peoplpe do give me commpliments I feel weired in the begining but still self concious of what else they are thinking to compliment me on. But I am getting better with apreciating the skin that I am ina nd also accepting compliments from people.

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  9. To comment on what Ms. Alexander had said...
    I use to be just like that off to my self as a loner because to me the only one that I could trust was myself. Nature and Nurture does not only have to be within the blood lines but for me it was with society. I pushed myself away from a lot of thing because of fear. Fear led me to isolate myself and when it did come time for me to intertwine in society I could not do it because pain inside was built up in me that when it came time to talk or just hang out that would come out at the wrong time. So people in the begining did not know me from a can of paint but now I am starting to be nurterd by society and it feels good. There are something that I do not give way to but to know its there and to understand it then that just makes me more comfortable.

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  10. i agree with Dai'Shawn Creer about the me and i theory.it true how we look at our self and then look how others see us.the lloking glass is a prime example because we kan never walk out side with out think well i won der how this look what will they say no mateer the person we still do care what others say about us.

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  11. Socialization and the "looking glass" theory, are two concepts from the chapter that I relate to. Socialization, is the foundation because based on the input from our cultural surroundings and the effects that it has on us, evidently determines how we will view ourselves through the looking glass.
    I'm alot harder on myself than I should be, which is something that I desperately need to work on. My grandmother always says that nobody will ever love you if you dont first love ya self. At times people are faced with obstacles and hardships from society that give them a distorted reflection when they look at themselves. In this day and time OK, is just not good enough. Society has began to send the message that makes it hard for people to be content and happy with who they are and what they have accomplished because they always tend to make it seem as though there's always someone better.
    It's very unhealthy to define your self-worth by others standards, but if those standards are set by society and society is formed through socialization, how will people ever be happy with being themselves? La-Toya Turner

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  12. The section of this chapter that really stood out to me and that i could really relate to was how the "family is such a crucial agaent of socialization in large part because it gets first crack at the job."
    Growing up with five brothers I would defentiently have to say that they had an influence on the person that I have become. As a young girl I was over protected a lot by my brothers, and father especially being the youngest. I was never allowed to go outside by myself until I entered the 7th grade, and was also not allowed to date. I would have to say that my brothers are responsible for my skills in sports, and most defently had an role in the way I dressed. I was a tomboy and I always hated wearing dresses until I got older and into boys.
    In conclusion Charles H. Cooley's theory the looking-glass self is a perfect example of how the family had an influence on how we view ourselves, and how we perceive others view of us.

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  13. The section of this chapter that really stood out to me and that i could really relate to was how the "family is such a crucial agaent of socialization in large part because it gets first crack at the job."
    Growing up with five brothers I would defentiently have to say that they had an influence on the person that I have become. As a young girl I was over protected a lot by my brothers, and father especially being the youngest. I was never allowed to go outside by myself until I entered the 7th grade, and was also not allowed to date. I would have to say that my brothers are responsible for my skills in sports, and most defently had an role in the way I dressed. I was a tomboy and I always hated wearing dresses until I got older and into boys.
    In conclusion Charles H. Cooley's theory the looking-glass self is a perfect example of how the family had an influence on how we view ourselves, and how we perceive others view of us.

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  14. the one concept in this chapter that really stuck out to me was the "looking glass". this concept stuck out to me the most because it is so ture. at a young age we start to in a way putting ourselves in other peoples shoes to see how they see us. If someone looks at use as being ugly thats what we are going to see ourselves as even if we are not. And by seeing how others see us shapes who we are and how we see ourselves.

    This relates to me personally because when i was young every time i looked in a mirror i pictured what the other kids would say about me, if they would like me or not. when it came to picking out what i would wear i wouldnt pick what i like i would pick what the other kids would think is nice. And by me doing that it shaped who i dressed as a child.

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  15. I think the most profound thing about our last chapter was the looking glass theory presented by Charles Horton Cooley. I can relate to this because when I was younger I was always called the screw-up! My sisters were the type to love school and studying. I was the sports and hang out child. I didn't want to go to school, or church so I was deemed the trouble maker. After a little while, I began to look at myself as that and actually began making trouble. I would cut school in 7th and 8th grade. I was fighting and smoking and failing! My father set me up with a mentor that attended my church. I started spending a lot of time with this lady. She was very encouraging, and supportive, something my parents seemed to do more for my sisters than myself. My father would always say I have four princesses and a jester! Seems kinda funny but it affected me to some extent. But now relating this looking glass theory to my life then. I can understand how the way others view you could be important, and shape how you view yourself. When I got things together in high school things changed at home. I began to get praise from my parents which in turn helped me continue applying myself for better grades!

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  16. I think that I can identify with what Sociologist Cooley said about the looking-glass self. I can say that most of the time I will think about how people perceive me when I walk into a room full of family members or strangers. Because Cooley said that the looking-glass self is based on how others see us. Sometimes I worry about what people think about me and what do they see about me that I do not see about myself. Most of the time I take into consideration what people say and think if I know them. I always believe that there is a something about me that I don't know and that only people that see me can tell me. Even sometimes there are ways that we act the we don't know about unless someone tells us about it. I try to have no shame of my self but to have some sense of pride. If I don't like myself how can I expect someone else to like me. By do the looking-glass self you can learn more about the person you are through your primary group.

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  17. The entire chapter was very interesting to me due to the fact that everything that was discussed i can relate to my everyday life.But the term that captured my attention the most was socialization itself. A person cannot develop their character or personality without interacting and socializing with other individuals. When talking about me personally i am a very open nice person when referring to socail skills.I interact with many dividuals on a daily basis i think that communication is the key to everything, because if individuals got a understanding then i think that it will be less judgements, and conflicts. I am what people call a social butterfly, because i am willing to have a conversation with many different individuals, i think that is a sense of learning from others through conversation. Talking to individuals give people a chance to know the amazing side of you!!!!! if you do not socialize with people then how are they going to see that side of you? If i am at a social gathering event i try to interact with every individual on a positive level in getting to no the surface of that individual, and let them no the great side of me. Personally i think that i have great socialization tools.

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  18. The concept that stood out most to was "The Looking-Glass Self". The Looking- Glass Self is a concept that we all take part in on a regular bases. We all imagine how we look to other people, we imagine that other person's reaction to our appearance, and we have either have a self-feeling of pride or shame. To me the Looking-Glass Self is more about your daily decisions about what I say, wear and do. I always find my self thinking about what others would say if i do this or that Will people talk good or bad about what I have on, etc. We all can say that we dont care about what people think about us but truly we all are concerned about others reactions.

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  19. The main concept that stood out to me in the chapter in Charles Horton Cooley's concept of the "looking glass mirror". Even though people say they do not care about anyone's perception... truly people do. Whether the perception is positive or negative these people are our mirrors and they do help us change perception of ourself. For example, before I came to college I used to have a nasty attitude in which i didnt give two craps about anyone or what they say. Then what started happening was that people was telling me about my attitude and they became my mirror. I started to see that it was not becoming of me as a young lady then I had to focus on the "me" aspect and then i started to change. Basically everyone opinion matter in the most minut ways to the most extravagant ways, and they do shape who we are. Sometimes we have to stop and think if we did not have people opinions what would we have to deal with within ourself today.

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  20. One idea I would like to express is Charles Horton Cooley theory. I can relate to this because I'm am sometimes worried about how people take me in and percieve me. When your're a child you do what pleases you without feeling embarrassed about who you are because you're still finding yourself. As I got older I realized that people began to judge quicker that quick sand. I also have realized that without he positive and negative ways of society we would not be able to be judged. It's like you're being your own teacher but how do you know if you're doing a good job without being grades or looked over. This is also something like Sociological Imgaination by C. Wright Mills. This society the individual and the individual shape the society. There would not be a society without different individuals and we also would not learn an see deep within ourselves.

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  21. In my Ethics class today our topic was: Is it ever justifiable to tell a lie? and a point came up in the students paper about the way he was raised. He had said that he was taught by his family to not snitch. When we was in Sociology class an we was talking about the influence on the things we do micro, exo and ,macro. Even though we say that blood is thicker then water and blood is blood and no matter what to stick up for family he said that he would not say anything.

    But I said that even though family has taught us to stick up for each other family has also taughgt us morally right things and how integrity plays a part in the actions that we make. So really macro group society has put that impression about "snitches get stiches" to everyone really.

    So he went on and said that he was in the court annd they ask him what went on he said that he would not tell the truth he would just say that he does not know because he does not want people to look at him as a snitch.

    So from the question that was raised in class should we care what other people think about us? Sometimes yes and sometimes no. But I was told that "My integrity is more important than my reputation." So I will do my best and operaye on that..... What do you think????

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  22. For everyone who said that the” looking glass mirror “had stood out to them the most I agree. When I was in high school I use to wear all these bright colors. I never cared about what the next person had thought about me wearing my bright colors. At first when I came to college I still was wearing my bright colors but at the same time I start slowing down with wearing them. I found myself only wearing bright colors at home where wearing bright colors was always in or just on the weekend. I start to think of what my peers and professor could be saying. My peers might have felt that bright colors were so junior high. My professor might have felt that bright colors does not give me a professional look. This also reminds me of what George Herbert Mead was saying about the “I and Me” theory. In my eyes bright colors was cool but the next person may have thought that I needed to chill out with all the bright colors. I felt how I felt about bright color, it was how I saw myself but it also left me wondering how the next person saw me. I realize that there is a small part of me that think and cares what the next person think about me.

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  23. For everyone who said that the” looking glass mirror “had stood out to them the most I agree. When I was in high school I use to wear all these bright colors. I never cared about what the next person had thought about me wearing my bright colors. At first when I came to college I still was wearing my bright colors but at the same time I start slowing down with wearing them. I found myself only wearing bright colors at home where wearing bright colors was always in or just on the weekend. I start to think of what my peers and professor could be saying. My peers might have felt that bright colors were so junior high. My professor might have felt that bright colors does not give me a professional look. This also reminds me of what George Herbert Mead was saying about the “I and Me” theory. In my eyes bright colors was cool but the next person may have thought that I needed to chill out with all the bright colors. I felt how I felt about bright color, it was how I saw myself but it also left me wondering how the next person saw me. I realize that there is a small part of me that think and cares what the next person think about me.

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  24. This chapter really stood out to me because it sort of relates to me life. Especially the story of the girls being isolated from society. I had a story where in my childhood I attended private school for a few years. Well to make a long story short when I came back to public school I was lost. It was like placing a baby in a room full of giants. I had to learn how to be social with big numbers of people. I had went from a predominately white private school of about 200 to an all black middle school where there were more than 200 in a single grade level. It was like I had to re assimilate myself back to society.

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